![]() ![]() I was initially far more interested in how I could change the colours of things on screen and get the speaker to make funny noises. When I first learned programming YEARS ago starting with Acorn BBC Basic it actually took me quite some time before I learned how to do 'proper' loops (e.g for, while etc). If you can get them quickly to feeling a little bit of that power that comes from software, that starts the fire, and they'll have more motivation to figure out terminals and paths and verisons and OSes and everything else. I feel like getting people to that first high where they see their code generate output is really important. You start seeing things happen right away, and you don't need to understand all the infrastructure initially. ![]() Which is to say, it works like any other web site. You can access it on any computer and it always works the same way. This doesn't seem like much to people in the field, but I remember it being really intimidating. You need to learn about paths, and java versions, and sdks, and what 'compiling' even means, and the concept of source code vs a binary. You need to learn how to start and navigate a shell on your computer (different on each type, and depends on your system configuration). Have you considered starting with something with less conceptual overhead than java-in-a-shell? There's so much you need to understand before you can even get to writing code that way. I always wonder what made it different that last time, and if it applies to others. I bounced off each time, until finally sticking. I've done a lot of pondering about how to teach programming because I tried to learn several times myself, both on my own and in classes.
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